In this conversation, we talk with Dr. Michael Klaper and discuss the importance of nutrition in healthcare. We share personal stories of how a plant-based diet has improved our own health and discuss the need for greater nutritional awareness among medical professionals. Dr. Klaper also address the misinformation surrounding diets like carnivore and keto, emphasizing the benefits of a plant-based diet for overall health and disease prevention. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the affordability of plant-based foods. Dr. Klaper discusses the importance of plant-based nutrition and its impact on health. We highlight the benefits of eating whole, plant-based foods and the role it plays in preventing and reversing chronic diseases. We also discuss the need for physicians to receive more education on nutrition and the challenges in implementing this change in medical schools. The conversation emphasises the power of food in improving health and the importance of public awareness and education.